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Judy Woodruff: "Saya tahu bahwa Vaclav Havel tidak ingin menatap mata...

"Saya tahu bahwa Vaclav Havel tidak ingin menatap mata orang-orang, karena dia mengatakan bahwa, ketika dia sedang diinterogasi selama periode komunis dan telah dipenjara, bahwa, jika Anda melihat langsung ke mata seseorang, mereka dapat membujuk Anda . Dan Anda dapat melihatnya dengan sangat jelas dalam wawancara ini, di mana dia melihat ke bawah. Dan saya terus mengatakan kepadanya ketika kami terus datang - datang ke sini: "Anda harus melihat ke atas." Dan saya jelas tidak memiliki pengaruh padanya."

--- Judy Woodruff

Versi Bahasa Inggris

I knew that Vaclav Havel didn't want to look into people's eyes, because he said that, when he was being interrogated during the communist period and had been taken to jail, that, if you look directly into somebody's eyes, they can persuade you. And so you can see that so clearly in this interview, where he's looking down.And I kept saying to him as we kept coming - came over here: " You have to look up."And I clearly had no influence on him.